South Vienna’s Busses: The Detour Lines

In the previous post South Vienna’s Busses: Race The Bus – Walk I raced the 60A by walking and I made the bold claim that “to win a speed race against public transportation, walking is completely sufficient“. You might think I am singling out the most ridiculous detour in Vienna’s transportation network, far from it; the network is full of them, in particular in the 23rd District, where I live.

65A detour over Steinhof/Schöpfwerk

For example, the bus line 65A takes a 2290m detour over Computerstr., Gutheil Schoder G. and Anton Baumgartner Str. instead of driving the 1000m straight on the Triester Straße.


66A detour over Sau Berg (Bonus 60A detour)

The 66A driving from Atzgersdorf to the Liesing train station takes 3084m long detour over the Sau Berg (also with a 45‰ and 50‰ hills) complete with 9 turns instead of driving straight 1825m on the Breitenfurter Straße with two turns.


If you look closely on the map above, you will see that the 60A does a 2050m detour over Carlbergergasse and Brunner Str. instead of going the 1160m straight to Atzgersdorfer Platz.

61A drives in slalom through the industry area.

The 61A drives from Liesing to Teufelsmühle/Siebenhirten by driving first south on the Perchtoldsdorfer Straße, east on the Ketzergasse, then north on the Brunner Straße, east on the Carlbergergasse, south on the Herziggasse, east on the Perfektrastraße, and South again through Neu Erlaa until it gets back to the Ketzergasse. The 61A is 6800m long, just driving along the Perchtoldsdorfer Straße and Ketzergasse would be 3370m.


The 17A will complete a North-East-North-East-South-East-North in Inzersdorf, Wienerfeld and Oberlaa journey starting next September, similar to the 61A.

58A has a roller-coaster detour.


But the most ridiculous bus detour in the 23rd district is the one completed by the 58A. If you exit the 58A at Endemanngasse then you can enjoy a leisurely 680m walk down Endemanngasse and up Atzgersdorfer Straße to Schluckergasse. Meanwhile, the 58A will drive 2500m and 6 minute, up two hills and down two hills, with 5 turns before arriving at Schluckergasse.  Driving 2500m instead of 680m is bad enough, but the fact that it drives up and down those steep hills (55‰, 22‰, 40‰, 71‰ and 45‰) makes it atrocious.  It’s almost as if someone sat down and thought, we are burning too little diesel on the 58A bus line. I know! We will send it up and down the Steinberg, Rosenberg and Rosenhügel (which translates to Stone Mountain, Rose Mountain and Rose Hill).

Detours Adieu!

If you look closely on the 58A map above you will see there is a bus line 63A which ends on the top of the Rosenhügel. The 63A terminates there and then drives back over Hetzendorf into town. Now I have calculated that if the city of Vienna runs the 58A bus line directly down to Atzgersdorf without the roller-coaster detour, then, with the extra capacity it could extend the 63A bus line from Rosenhügel all the way to Mauer (which is the next small town centre to the southwest). Why stop there, the 61A slalom route could be ran as circular line or split into two that are of a higher quality, the 66A’s Sau Berg detour could be eliminated and taken over by and extended 58A, the 65A could drive directly and twice as often down to Neustift/Straszen. There are so many detours in the South of Vienna’s transportation system that two new lines could be run with the freed up capacity of getting rid of all the detours.

I realize that there are people that will not manage to walk my speed or distance between these detours but these detours lower the quality of the public transportation network and ideally should not exist.


Edit 2017.07.19: Note to hills and ‰.

In the maps and texts above I labeled the hills with ‰, which means “per mil” = 1/1000. Not to be confused with %, which means “per cent” = 1/100. The grade 45‰ denotes “for every 1000 meters driven, there is a 45 meter height difference.” This is an average, there are road sections which are steeper. Not all hills have been labeled, along the 66A detour there are more with 15 to 35‰ grades. The long arrow next to the label shows the section where the average was calculated.


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